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Subect:
Mohin
Me:
I heard you are new comer. How is the area?
Beat:
How is the area is. All are the same. It’s like living on Mars. No good
accommodation, communication or road.
Me:
How many days you are here?
Beat:
For many days, during the time I went for marriage.
Me:
Have you brought here?
Beat:
Hah! Hah!! There is no accommodation to live, so the wife is. I have to go out
for work at 2/ 3 AM.
Me:
What is your duty at midnight
2 or 3 AM.
Beat:
I receive call somewhere the trees are getting theft, so I go for there.
Me:
Are you alone or there are people with you?
Beat:
There are 3/ 4 people with me I call them to stay with me on the spot.
Me:
I heard a lot of admiration about you.
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Beat:
The demand of villagers is in forest, for the farm of Jum permission will be
given. They can not how to divide the little land of forest among millions of
people. Decreasing forest dependency, it’s not possible to subsidy for it. It
is quite small the PAC is providing.
Me:
Are you happy having stopped the trees theft.
Beat:
Tree theft is now stopped. It is not sustainable solution. Buggers are
searching ways when the time will come to steal. May be they can not cut trees
today, 5 years letter the can. Trees are getting higher for them. It is
difficult to stop those who got interest in thieving trees. It’s easy money.
In
speaking easily, the present condition of forest gives me pleasure, but not
happiness, happiness is permanent.
I
have to go now.
Me:
Thank you for giving time. See you letter.
Beat:
When you again come letter, you may see me in dead.
Me:
It will not happen. Have a long life.
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Beat:
The staff of the forest can not work. But I have more criticism. However, I do
not care admiration or criticism.
Me:
What is the main conflict with local people?
Beat:
Let me see, we want making forest. They want cutting forest. If I give them
chance to destroy forest, there is no conflict. It’s clear.
Me:
What type of conflict you make that means your staff makes with villagers?
Beat:
There is no end of conflict. Someone says the officer is theft, he takes bribe,
other says he has an ego about his job; someone it seems the forest is his
father’s. However, I am quite well to the folks who live in forest, they do not
thieve anything.
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But
the people who live around the forest they steal trees. And I am quite bad to
them.
Me:
You are bad to only few folks or to all folks who live around forest.
Beat:
Let me see when a tree gets thieve, there are a lot of people involve with it,
someone invest money, other’s buy the tree, political leader provides
permission to cut the tree and the CPG members are also involve with cutting
trees. Therefore, there are a lot groups involve cutting trees.
Me:
The people of Bugmara are very angry to the staff of forest. What are the
reasons behind?
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Beat:
There are cases against the people cutting trees and a lot of people are still
in custody. CPG people, local leaders, workers and investors a lot of group of
people are involved to cut trees. Therefore, it is not safe for the forest
department officer to go to the forest.
Me:
I got it understood when I went to the forest as Focus Group. They thought I am
NGO or forest officer, so that they prepared to beat us there. Have you taken
any steps to resolve the conflict with them?
Beat:
If we remove cases against them the conflict will go out. But the cases will
not withdraw. And as fear of cases a lot of those are fled. So the forest is
safe now. Those who buys the theft trees, I made cases against them too, so no
one can buy theft trees.
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Me:
Making conflict with local folks can it save forest?
Beat:
There is no conflict with local people. The conflict is with the thieves. But
the regret is that NGO, political and other everyone recommends for the
thieves. If I catch thieves and Range Officer and DFO made them free I can not
do anything. I am getting help from range officer and DFO about the matter.
Me:
Is it possible to save the forest without making involved community people?
Beat:
In a word, it’s not possible. To save the forest if local people are interested
it may be possible, but it’s very difficult. Local people phone me to catch the
tree buggers and the buggers are local folks. Without having help from the
locals it’s not possible to thieve trees from far away.
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How
to involve community people to save the forest?
Beat:
It’s not possible naming partnership to dividend the forest to them. The
involvement can increase to make them aware. As like making they understand the
forest saves environment. And there may have financial rewards for those who
help to catch the thieves. I think this rewards the general people, NGO and
forest staff can understand.
Me:
How much CMC made awareness among
local people?
Beat:
You made me laugh.
Me:
Why? What is the reason behind laugh?
Beat:
The question is not an end question. Ask me instead how much CMC made awareness to thieve trees among people.
Let me listen. Do you have the time?
Me:
Yes I have time; your speech is listening well. I have no any work today.
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Beat:
When I joined here first, I saw a good relation between CMC,
NGO and thieves. The staffs of forest department are quite helpless because of CMC people. CMC
made tree thieves as their member. Say me if there is in the part of thieves
the CPg, CMC, Political, local
leaders, so what can Beat Officer, range officer and DFO can do, In days, they
made awareness 2/ 4 folks and in night they thieve trees.
Me:
What is the solution of the problems?
Beat:
To save the forest, no need to do anything, they just need to stop to cut the
trees.
Me:
The tourist is getting on rise day by day what are the advantages and
disadvantages for forest?
Beat:
In a word, we are getting money from tourist, it’s the benefit, and the
environment of forest is getting spoiled is drawbacks.
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Beat:
When I joined here first, I saw a good relation between CMC,
NGO and thieves. The staffs of forest department are quite helpless because of CMC people. CMC
made tree thieves as their member. Say me if there is in the part of thieves
the CPg, CMC, Political, local
leaders, so what can Beat Officer, range officer and DFO can do, In days, they
made awareness 2/ 4 folks and in night they thieve trees.
Me:
What is the solution of the problems?
Beat:
To save the forest, no need to do anything, they just need to stop to cut the
trees.
Me:
The tourist is getting on rise day by day what are the advantages and disadvantages
for forest?
Beat:
In a word, we are getting money from tourist, it’s the benefit, and the
environment of forest is getting spoiled is drawbacks.
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Beat:
When I joined here first, I saw a good relation between CMC,
NGO and thieves. The staffs of forest department are quite helpless because of CMC people. CMC
made tree thieves as their member. Say me if there is in the part of thieves
the CPg, CMC, Political, local
leaders, so what can Beat Officer, range officer and DFO can do, In days, they
made awareness 2/ 4 folks and in night they thieve trees.
Me:
What is the solution of the problems?
Beat:
To save the forest, no need to do anything, they just need to stop to cut the
trees.
Me:
The tourist is getting on rise day by day what are the advantages and
disadvantages for forest?
Beat:
In a word, we are getting money from tourist, it’s the benefit, and the
environment of forest is getting spoiled is drawbacks.
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Actually,
there is no benefit, the money which comes from tourist gets looted and the
money which fixed for forest development gets looted, only 10% gets work and
90% gets in pocket, so where is the benefit? The benefit is only 2/ 4 ones work
as guide and some business gets done, the introduction of forest gets higher as
well.
And
the disadvantages are the tourist does not follow any guidelines, they inter
forest without permission, making chouse and make conflict with indigenous
people.
Me:
How to develop tourist industry?
Beat:
Minimizing corruption of people related to revenue and making tourist to follow
the rules of forest.
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Me:
Have you been able to stop tree thieve in forest.
Beat:
No, I have not but I made it decreased.
Me:
What are the problems you facing during duty.
Beat:
Good question, there is no armed force for forest department, we had to take
help from police, we have go for 10 miles to catch thieves, there is no mobile
network there. There is no good vehicle for forest department, there is no
security for the people of forest department, we have to cope against armed
thieves.
Me:
What is the main demand of community people?
Beat:
They have thousands of demands. The demand of the areas is as like to farm the
pan increasing lands, making roads well, having withdrawn the suits against
them etc.
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